Dizzy Gillespie - "Salt Peanuts"

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Submitted by webmaster on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 01:52

Dizzy Gillespie - "Salt Peanuts" - 1947

Posted By TheGreatPerformers
June 03, 2007

“Dizzy played for Lucky Millinder's band in the early '40s. It was a riff this band played, after a Dizzy solo in the tune "Little John Special", that Dizzy developed into his tune "Salt Peanuts".”

Video Description:
Dizzy Gillespie and his orchestra are filmed onstage performing “Salt Peanuts”.

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webmaster
Wed, 20 January, 2010 - 01:57

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cvwtzhaar (1 year ago) Diz was the best

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evilmike (1 year ago Man that drummer really likes his drums

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CanadiensForever (1 year ago) I love this kind of music, back when people actually could play instruments :P
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rld (1 year ago) i agree! nobody plays REAL instruments. just like how there's no REAL entertainment!!! and WHY, i ask, WHY salt peanuts? anyone know the story behind that?

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8Nostalgia6 (1 year ago) omg. We play this in our jazz band and we go like 1/6 the speed of this. man, that blew me away

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davidsrojasp (1 year ago) My god, how did this people play this fast?

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DrStrangefate (1 year ago) practice....practice

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aaronentresz (1 year ago) I've got another version of this by Dizzy, and he goes even faster than this!

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bEfstu (1 year ago) Ive never heard a big band arrangement to this before until now! =)

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freudjung (1 year ago) this rockz, man

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Horhay117 (1 year ago) We played this at a slower tempo than this and i have to say i like it better slowed down a little

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catgumart (1 year ago) No he isn't being goofy, he is just expressing himself...maybe by todays standards of how you ought to be it looks goofy..in this day in age eit is all about looking hard and determined but there are other expressions that communicate other feelings and to a contemporary eye it may seem goofy upon superficial examination, but if you understand the music you see that these men were incredibly talented gifted musicians who invented and amazing new type of Jazz music.

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elguitaro (1 year ago) If this is from '47 it could very well be the same Big Band that Gillespie recorded Manteca with:
Dave Burns, Elmon Wright Jr., Benny Bailey (trumpets, though there is an extra trumpet in the section), William Shepperd, Ted Kelly (trombones), John Brown, Howard Johnson (alto saxophone), Joe Gayles, George "Bick Nick" Nicholas (tenor saxophone), Cecil Payne (baritone saxophone), John Lewis (piano), Al McKibbon (bass), Kenny Clarke (drums -- though it could very well be Roach)

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gulliver38 (1 year ago) It's not Kenny Clarke, but Max Roach on drums.

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vova47 (1 year ago) It´s neither. The drummer is without a doubt
none other than Joe Harris, who worked w. Dizzy from 1946 to 1948.

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elguitaro (1 year ago) FYI got that information from Martin/Waters text "Essential Jazz: The First 100 Years, 2nd ed," pg. 146.

Manteca was recorded in 1947 with that group along with Chano Pozo on congas. Great tune.

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HERRER21 (10 months ago) Music such as Rap, Rock and Roll, as well as Jazz all originated from the blues.

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LeGemDior (10 months ago) lol i remember jim carey doing this song in "cable guy" ("salt peanuts salt peanuts")

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Huckabeezer (8 months ago) This is an excellent version of the early hard bop sound. This set the stage for the next 25 years or so in jazz. Hats off to all who are listening and appreciating here.

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famguy218 (8 months ago) played this song in the jazz band at my school

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tinroofbusted (8 months ago) The Idea of this " pure music " was always to listen to the music and as an added bonus interesting lyrics. Truly someone said, " listen to the notes not played and you will get it ". It's feeling the music, How does it make you feel ? How do you personally interpret the music. This is the way I look at Jazz, It makes me feel like I can say to the World: I'm happy and nothing you do can change that. Music Charms me and all manner of Earthly beast. Salt Peanuts, What a great addition on youtube

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FrozenRainProduction (8 months ago) I love salt peanuts i love most jazz. its a great art form that should get more reconized today

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snowflakealertcat (5 months ago) The trumpets are talking!

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rkc2011 (5 months ago) salt peanuts salt peanut!!

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rodrigitotube (5 months ago) NICE DRUM SOLO!

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22Fotiu (4 months ago) The drummer is Joe Harris who replaced Kenny Clarke in Dizzy's big band.
Max Roach has never played with this band.
In 1947 he was busy playing with Charlie Parker's quintet and Bud Powell's trio.

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Fnarge (2 months ago) Grreat to one of Dizzy's best bop era drummers,the mighty Joe Harris in action and playing such a powerful, well timed solo. Love those breaks and pregnant pauses.

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hejazz (3 days ago) I think the drummer is Joe Harris. He and Kenny Clarke played on the Dizzy Gillespie ensembles in 1947. His drum solo is practically identical to the one he played at Carnegie Hall with Dizzy and Bird on 9/29/47.

What amazes me is the apparent ease with which he executes such blisteringly fast and complex rhythms; all while lookin' good in a three p

 

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Wed, 20 January, 2010 - 01:55

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Cerigos (2 years ago) thanks for uploading this, its brilliant

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nkushani (1 year ago) so funny and cool!!
I prefer this version to vocalless version.
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ortanko (1 year ago) Whose that on the drums??

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JosephNScott (1 year ago) "Whose that on the drums??"
Joe Harris. He is on lots of Diz's late '40s recordings including the Diz/Bird quintet that played at Carnegie Hall in '47.

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realnube (9 months ago) Pittsburgh's own Joe Harris is definitely on the drums; he's good friends with my father. Still lives in the burgh

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cooperyahoo (1 year ago) Love Dizzy

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toddyelling (1 year ago)  true music

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hammetjunior13 (1 year ago) wow, great saxophone

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galethio (1 year ago) dizzy classic
one of the best
no THE BEST

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Cregol (1 year ago) can anyone tell who's playing what in this band?

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JosephNScott (1 year ago) "The only famous (today) people in this lineup of Diz's band are Diz, James Moody, John Lewis, Ray Brown, and Milt Jackson."
... and Milt wasn't even on stage on this particular tune, but if you do a google search on
gillespie beeped
there's Milt.

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coolstruttin1 (1 year ago) Bird and Diz played together quite often in NYC and they were the ones that started bebop! You can't rely on records to tell the whole story, but Diz did play in Bird's bands quite often in the 40s and no one came close to having the aura of Bird in NYC and Chicago and KC, according to Mile's autobiography. If that is NOT "true," I'm sure we can agree that it is remotely close to true. Where can I find the black charts?

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JosephNScott (1 year ago) "Bird and Diz played together quite often in NYC" Until 1945, yes. For almost a decade Diz mostly distanced himself from Bird (I mean distanced himself literally physically -- he always highly praised his work).
"no one came close to having the aura of Bird in NYC and Chicago and KC"
for some people, who didn't number all that many people total, but had great taste.
"Where can I find the black charts?" _The Billboard Book Of Top 40 R&B And Hip-Hop Hits_.
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jazzfolkrocker (1 year ago) was the distancing mainly because Diz went on to experiment with afro-cuban stuff and Bird was playing more straightup bop? (i'm generalizing from the work i've heard)

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JosephNScott (1 year ago) "was the distancing mainly because Diz went on to experiment with afro-cuban stuff and Bird was playing more straightup bop?" Diz distanced himself physically from Bird after a certain point because on a personal level Diz, who didn't believe in taking a lot of drugs or showing up late, found Bird a trying person to be around. But always adored his playing.

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JosephNScott (1 year ago) "Bird was the biggest thing there was in NYC in the 40s and early 50s." Not remotely close to true. Bird never even had a single reach the top ten on the "black" charts: Lester Young had three, Muddy Waters had fourteen, Dinah Washington had thirty-five. Diz was never in Bird's bands because he had decided he wouldn't be (and that Bird wouldn't be in his). Bird often worked with trumpeters other than Miles.

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coolstruttin1 (1 year ago) Uhh you probably shouldn't make general comments like that. Bird was the biggest thing there was in NYC in the 40s and early 50s; not so much with people that couldn't understand what he was doing. Diz was never in Bird's bands because Bird would hire Miles.

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SamMoff (1 year ago) yeah but still, Bird would have gotten credit right? I mean he did tons and tons of stuff with Diz

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JosephNScott (1 year ago) "yeah but still, Bird would have gotten credit right?" This was an actual working band, and none of the actual working bands that had both Diz and Bird in them were credited as led or coled by Bird. That fits with the facts that Diz was more famous than Bird throughout the '40s and was a much better organizer than Bird.

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JosephNScott (1 year ago) "An important person such as bird...." If Bird had been in this band he would have sat next to the other alto. Early 1946 and earlier, Bird was often in bands led by Diz, and Diz was never in a band led by Bird. Late 1946 to early 1955, Diz wouldn't work in any actual working band with Bird (as opposed to one of them showing up for a guest spot, or them showing up for a studio recording date together), because he considered Charlie unreliable and often unreasonable.

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upphetsade (1 year ago) The alto sax soloist is John Brown, who played alongside Charlie Parker in Jay McShann's orchestra in the early 1940's.

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JosephNScott (1 year ago) "Why is he saying salt peanuts? Does it mean something? Is there a point to it? I'm a pretty young guy, so I figured it was some kind of cultural thing I'm too young to understand." The cultural thing is that fun silly pointless lyrics and titles were popular at the time: "Disorder At The Border" by Coleman Hawkins, "Hey Ba-Ba-Re-Bop" by Lionel Hampton, "Get The Mop" by Red Allen, "Vout Orenee" by Slim Gaillard, "Crazeology" by Charlie Parker, "Ool-Ya-Koo" by Dizzy, and so on.

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licentiousme (1 year ago) I think it's because Dizzy encountered a peanut vendor yelling "salt peanuts!", and decided to include it in a song. Nothin' too significant.

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azchapterdemolay (1 year ago) salt peanuts the song was idealized to convey the stand sellers in new york. dizzy took the peanut vendors shouts in the street and integrated them into this song in an effort to bring the livelyhood of the streets further into jazz music

 

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